Old school vs modern technology 35 year old ping eye 2 driver vs 2018 ping g400 max duration. Dustin johnson hit jack nicklaus old 1iron and persimmon driver. As you would expect the results were fairly dramatic as well here. The snow was actually great for the local courses, must have insulated them i guess. The 1wood, or driver, is the lowestlofted, longest, and often lightest club in a players bag, and is meant to launch the ball the longest distance of any club. This low cog along with 12 loft allows the driver to launch the ball higher and maximize carry distance.
There seems to be a steady progression of lost driving distance that comes with age, but i dont recall ever seeing much actual information on the topic. I have seen very little loss of distance with this club, and my scores are lower because i spend almost no time in the junk. Three wood shaft 234 feet average 23 feet off line. Buy new and used taylormade pittsburgh persimmon driver from the best golf shop.
Both distance and accuracy of drivers has improved with each successive era with the exception. Get the best deals on driver golf clubs persimmon wood head when you shop the. Best golf ball for persimmon woods site for golfers. Dj still pounded them, hitting the driver 290 yards and the 1iron 232 yards a big drop from djs current driving distance average of 314 yards ranked 6th on tour, but impressive nonetheless. Hickory and steel shafted persimmon hickory drivers. Available in standard, draw bias and offset drivers. True temper has discontinued manufacturing steel shafts for woods as of november 2017. Taylormadeadidas golf is one of the largest golf club manufacturers in the world. Jul 26, 2012 he is 69th on the pga tour in driving accuracy and 63rd in scoring average as of october 25, 2000. I purchased a classic fifties persimmon driver from louisville golf. For the past 40 years, taylormade has continued that legacy of innovation with gamechanging technologies, engineered to help golfers perform at their best.
Aug 30, 2018 dj still pounded them, hitting the driver 290 yards and the 1iron 232 yards a big drop from djs current driving distance average of 314 yards ranked 6th on tour, but impressive nonetheless. These are the last players to win a major with persimmon. Our guide to maximizing driver distance goes over every single way you can add distance to your drives. There are already some good answers here, but unfortunately, your question leaves out a major factor in driving distance. Apr 22, 2019 when it comes to the pga championship, the late payne stewart was the last player to capture the wanamaker trophy while yielding a persimmon driver when he did so in 1989 at kemper lakes golf club. Any shots that had a total distance variance of greater than 25% from the norm all shorter were eliminated and replayed. The pros might be bombing the ball with their drivers, but recreational golfers are still lagging far behind. The golf industry has made significant and i mean significant improvements in driver technology in recent decades. Aug 20, 2015 i also totaled the distance after roll the ten shots with each club finished from the center line. Hogan, snead, palmer, nicklaus, and watson to name a few, have use this shape to amass countless victories. Mar 26, 2008 the face of a persimmon driver does deform a little at impact but not very much and the resulting ball velocity off persimmon is dependent on the resilience of the ball head mass and head speed. Unless your swing is smooth as silk with an inside out path and a late release, tip number 1 is to be custom fit for the driver length that best matches your swing tempo, swing path release and golf athletic ability.
Persimmon golf produce some of the finest golf clubs, maintaining a tradition for the many thousands of persimmon fans who demand the experience and pleasure of playing with modern highperformance persimmon golf clubs. Hello all, can a persimmon wood be reshafted by the normal club repair man. I personally feel that there is not much difference between my 3wood swing and driver swing, and thats pretty much proven on the course. Range balls and persimmon woods persimmon golf today. The traditionalist in me i have four old bulls eye putters and two persimmon drivers in my bedroom closet at home, so that counts for something hates to say it, but the best part of the distance insights project might be a proposed solution in the conclusion to the report that would allow tournament committees to enact a local rule. From the frankly frog putting studio we respond to a viewer. Then when he signed with callaway, he also had a 6. This driver is made to perfectly match our jack white 1930 special 21degree cleek and jack white 1930 special spoon. Question, i understand that the test conducted used 1920 persimmon clubs, what about comparing these new titanium clubs to the new version of louisville golf persimmons drivers such as the thumper max or 2010 smart accumax persimmon driver.
In the golf equipment world, everything old is new againand nearly as often, newier just a few years later. Louisville golf is one of the rare companies remaining that still produces persimmon drivers and fairway woods. For maximizing your driver distance is the loft angle on the face of your driver. Get the best deals on driver golf clubs persimmon wood head when you shop the largest online selection at. I used a persimmon driver with a steel shaft that was provided by the pga rep remember, the first titanium driver, the. Testing the performance of drivers of different eras miles. Of course, we need to add a few to complete this set. I am playing a titleist 917 d3 driver with an aftermarket shaft from accra, so this is some of the best equipment that modern design has to offer.
When looking at the group average, the modern driver was 30 yards ahead of the persimmon driver and yards ahead of the driver from the 90 s. When i put jamie sadlowski driver swing speed 148 mph in that calculator, it gives 6. Is it true that the lower the loft on my driver, the further i hit the ball. Testing the performance of drivers of different eras miles of golf. Driver golf clubs persimmon wood head for sale ebay.
Also included in this stable of brands is maxfli and rossa, in 1998 taylormade, salomon and adidas joined forces, this event brought together some of the most innovative companies in their fields. You mean like the old persimmon drivers or the early metalwoods that were about the size of todays 5woods and filled with things such as foam. The metal revolution started to take shape in 1979 when taylormade introduced the first steel head onto the market. Despite my fears, i generally didnt lose any distance, and due to a nice driving trajectory, get about. The 15 option is best for slow swings with the need for additional trajectory to help add distance. Many drivers have too little loft or shafts that are too long for the average golfer. He is 69th on the pga tour in driving accuracy and 63rd in scoring average as of october 25, 2000. Persimmon headed clubs quickly become garagecluttering relics. In the persimmon days the greatest players attempted to contact the ball in the center of the face with a level or descending impact approach angle. The threetime major winner is without doubt one of the longest hitting pros on tour and carried the persimmon driver 284 for a total distance of 306 yards.
Testing the performance of drivers of different eras. I cant think of anything i like more than playing clubs from the 50s. Make offer louisville golf smart persimmon tour 10. So, used that driver for about 3 rounds and was just slicing out in the rough out of play waaaaay too much. The natural attributes of distance, accuracy and feel ensure the tclassics legendary status. Dustin johnson hits jack nicklauss persimmon driver. Callaway rocks the golf world when it introduces the big bertha stainlesssteelheaded driver. A brief history of the golf club popular mechanics.
We believe metal woods may help the average golfer by offering a greater distance on. My curiosity got the best of me, so one day i sat down and tried to figure it out. Persimmon 182 feet average 18 off line three wood shaft 234 feet average 23 feet off line driver shaft 315 feet average 31 off line. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons. Nov 03, 2014 each golfer hit series of shots with their own driver and another with the persimmon driver. I was only able to carry the persimmon driver 219 yards for a total distance of 238 on average.
In this persimmon driver test, gm digital editor neil tappin hits a 25 year old driver putting it up against his own titleist 917 d2. Additionally, the ball speeds were very different 9mph versus 151 mph. On a perfectly hit shot, the our old wood drivers can get pretty close to the distance of todays modern drivers maybe 510 yards. Backspin on a golf ball golf questions and answers with pga professional mark blakemore, most frequently asked golf questions a golf ball is a special ball designed to be used in the game of golf. Driving distance on the pga tour has increased from the early 80s, when persimmon drivers were the primary club around 260 yards to today when the primary driving club is titanium about 287 yards. Persimmon golf faqs solid persimmon wooden golf clubs. First, the modern drivers average was hurt by a couple of truly awful mishits. All of golf s legends wielded this timeless design. Thats exactly what he used when he won the long driver contest. Roughly onehalf the increase in distance % took place between the late persimmon early stainless steel drivers of the 1980s and the current titanium.
Therefore, our supplies of true temper steel shafts such as the dynamic gold and dynalite models are limited to our current stock. May 01, 2019 tiger woods takes a cut with taylormades pittsburgh persimmon driver. Originally, the driver was only slightly larger than any other wood and was designed to be used from the tee or the fairway, but with the advent of hollow metal clubhead. Experience golf the way it was meant to be played with our custom modern vintage drivers. When it comes to the pga championship, the late payne stewart was the last player to capture the wanamaker trophy while yielding a persimmon driver when he did so in 1989 at kemper lakes golf club.
The feel and playability of nextgeneration persimmon has me playing the most promising golf of my. Golfers would hit 2 shots with their own, 2 with the persimmon, 2 with their own, until we had collected enough shots for each. The original one taylormade revives the mini driver. New variable weight technology provides up to 30 more yards for senior men and women with slow swing speeds. I am noticing that most of the persimmon woods that are available are with the regular shaft.
With metal woods, especially the drivers, i get better distance. At the byron nelson classic that year, he hit titleist balata 100 balls on the driving range with a persimmon driver supplied by noted golf author curt sampson, according to a blog post published. But the distance insights report does not make any recommendations for changes to the rules of golf. Because of these differences one can use a higher lofted titanium driver and launch the ball higher with less spin than its persimmon counterpart giving one another 58 yards. Are titanium drivers really that much better than wood. With a persimmon driver i could get about 230 carry, with varying degrees of rollout.
Big differences between persimmon and metal wood eras. Golf digest may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our affiliate. Golf clubs have all the bells and whistles these days. These hand made persimmon woods are the same type of golf club that were used from the early 1900s until the mid 1980s. Dustin johnson hit jack nicklaus old 1iron and persimmon. Golf digest may earn a portion of sales from products that. Lets forget about center of gravity, moment of inertia, weight adjustability and turbulators for a moment. In an independent test commissioned by louisville golf club company to golf labs, a persimmon driver outhit callaway golf s great big bertha in total distance by a yard using the same launch angle, persimmon getting a lot of its distance due to roll. This hard, resilient american timber has long been recognised as the most perfect golf club head material in fact nothing gets near it for the essentials of distance. Taylormade pittsburgh persimmon driver 2nd swing golf. This is an excellent driver for those looking for a deep face driver. Compared to 252yard carry and 272 total distance with my titleist, thats a pretty significant change. The black driving brassie has a slightly shallower face depth which lowers the center of gravity. Each era showed increases in distance with one exception.
Our team consists of skilled club makers producing persimmon drivers, fairway woods and putters. Case in point, taylormades new original one mini driver, which is simultaneously a celebration of the 40 th anniversary of the pittsburgh persimmon which taylormade bills as the original metalwood and the evolution of the mini driver. May 09, 2011 persimmon driver for distance and accuracy. How far would a pga golfers of today hit a 1980 persimmons wood. Its in the average distances and dispersion where weve seen a big difference probably 2030 yards shorter on average because the less than perfect shots with persimmon really hurt the averages.
How far would golfs legends drive the ball using modern. The greens and fairways yesterday were perfect, its incridible how north east courses bounce back after a rough winter. Can a persimmon wood be reshafted by todays club repair man. Dustin johnson hit jack nicklaus old 1iron and persimmon driver really, really far. Higher clubhead speed players had a greater percentage increase in distance. When im hitting my driver well, im also hitting my 3wood well, and vice versa. These differences, of lower spin and increased ball speed will, by themselves, result in at least 10 11 yards increase in distance. Gear effect and the case for persimmon drivers louisville golf.
In 1979, golf was changed forever with the introduction of the pittsburgh persimmon the original metalwood. Originally, the driver was only slightly larger than any other wood and was designed to be used from the tee or the fairway, but with the advent of hollow metal clubhead construction, the driver has become highly. Interestingly, the modern driver was edged out by our 2000s driver. I started playing golf with a wood driver and quickly found my way into. Also, will using todays harder golf ball slowly destroy the persimmon wood. Last minute i grabbed a persimmon driver, which i would hit on a few holes. This driver is made to perfectly match our jack white 1930 special 21degree cleek and jack white. Woods have longer shafts and larger, rounder heads than other club types, and are used to hit the ball longer distances than. Tiger woods, rory mcilroy take rips with 40yearold. Golf thumber fs had been wanting to get this driver for a while, and recently went to the louisville golf plant to pick one up. Solid persimmon head with leading edge plate and cycolac insert. Woods pointed out the dramatic changes in carry distance hes seen over time. Description first solid, oversized persimmon driver of its kind. I dropped golf for a number of years only to come back to all the grapefruit sized hollow shells of titanium and decided they werent for me and how i wanted to play the game.
On my andrew rice golf facebook page i asked readers if they had any experience with shortening the shaft of their driver and here are a few of. Lets remember that the swing speed set for the old overall distance standard test, established in 1976, was 109 miles per. The black brassie is a driver that compliments the black spoon, black cleek, and black bull dog fairway wood. My career, when i first started, i beat davis love in a playoff and he was using a persimmon driver. Enjoy renewed distance and more forgiveness in an easy to swing driver. Jul 12, 2011 you are not alone, there are more of us out here than you might expect. Apr 22, 2017 questions and answers about persimmon golf clubs. Or does it have to go to the seasoned persimmon expert. How high should i tee the ball with my persimmon driver do metal woods have gear effect. The early stainless steel drivers of the 1980s did not show increased distance over persimmon clubs. You havent experienced golf to the fullest unless you have played the game with these persimmon woods. Tiger woods weighs in on distance debate, bifurcation golf. One particular shot was hit off the toe of the club and ive noticed a very small but noticeable dent in the persimmon. Taylormade driver nicknamed it the pittsburgh persimmon as taylormade used steel rather than persimmon.
We all know how far todays star golfers hit the ball, but how would they fare with. Tclassic driver rhlh remarkable performance from the greatest of all persimmon drivers. More than 100 steps go into manufacturing these clubs. If you are an avid golfer, brace yourself for some sobering news. I also totaled the distance after roll the ten shots with each club finished from the center line.
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